15 Responses to “4th & Mass traffic changes may be more hostile to peds”


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  1. srm0971

    I completely agree that the situation is now much worse than before. Here’s another consideration: because the southbound cars, which are mostly turning left onto Massachusetts Avenue are ALSO trying to merge into the right-most lane in order to make it to the entry ramp to I-395 S, this scramble and fast speed to get there first further endangers pedestrians who are crossing Massachusetts Avenue. This is not a good situation.

  2. Mase

    I agree it is much worse. I often use the CaBi station at 4th and Mass. As “srm0971″ noted, southbound drivers from 4th are poor at seeing/acknowledging pedestrians — even more so now without the leading interval. I’ve had close calls more often due to this change.

  3. emily

    This is a horrible fix. This also means that there is now no time to completely cross Mass from the Papa Johns corner to the wiseguy corner. The light on H Street seems to start before the one on Mass and by the time you cross over Mass there is only around 10 seconds left to cross over H. This is such a mess!

  4. emily

    And I also agree with the above commenters that this intersection is even more dangerous now.

  5. Richard

    This new configuration is much worse for cars too. I noticed that east bound Mass Ave traffic is now getting a green to red light at 3rd/H St intersection just as the 4th St light is turning green. This literally lets 10-15 cars total through, backing up Mass ave traffic well into Mt. Vernon Square.

    Also, why is the “NO LEFT TURNS DURING RUSH HOUR” sign never enforced? I have even seen cops make that left off 4th onto Mass, with the sign illuminated. If the sign is there, enforce it!

  6. C

    I live right there and it seems much worse whether you are on foot or in the car. Traffic is backed up in most directions, blocking cross traffic and pedestrians. As the previous commenter said, the lights are completely miss timed now so only a few cars can clear the intersections at a given cycle while the lights stay green well after the intersection ahead is clear.

  7. nm

    I’ve sent 3 emails to DDOT and made 3 calls in the past 10 days. No response. Just forwarded it to Wells’s office. If anyone is up on Twitter, it appears that’s the only way to get a response from DDOT…@DDOTDC . Let’s get this fixed!

  8. Richard

    Also, why is the “No left turn” during rush hour never enforced? It seems to me that sending 4th st traffic down 4th street to the other I-395 entrance would alleviate some of the congestion at this entrance. I have seen cops turn left against the “NO LEFT TURNS” arrow plenty of times. Also, no left turns would make Pedestrians crossing Mass much safer. Why have the signs if they are not enforced?!

  9. Mvter

    And speaking of traffic lights, how long are the new signals at 5th and Mass going to sit there, turned off. It’s been months since the lights have been installed, what’s taking so long to turn them on?

  10. nm

    We now have a service request with DDOT (finally). Confirmation # 216578

  11. C

    I see multiple people have tweeted at @DDOTDC, including Councilman David Grosso. Also, it appears the person running the @DDOTDC Twitter account has personally experienced it … but no action.

    They had a couple folks attempting to direct traffic the other day, but they seemed as perplexed as everyone else and one nearly got hit by a car swerving to avoid a car blocking the intersection.

    Also, there are folks making all kinds of illegal turns – not just rush hour restricted ones. Finally, this morning I witnessed one person just run the red light (after sitting for a minute) after checking cross traffic on 4th … yikes.

  12. Erin

    Richard- the no left turn has now been removed.

  13. Richard

    Well that sucks. I think that if they funneled 4th St Traffic down to the D St, I-395 entrance that it would make traffic flow much better + it would make it safer for pedestrians to cross Mass. Oh well…

  14. Richard

    So I checked this morning. The signs and the illuminated signs are there…

  15. srm0971

    Another accident reported at the intersection yesterday: