DDOT response to NY Ave pedestrian safety requests

At Tuesday night’s membership meeting I learned that DDOT’s response to the MVSNA’s request for improved pedestrian safety along NY Ave. Below in the content from the meeting handout:

Increase walk time of signal across N.Y. Avenue at 5th Street NW from 20 to 45 seconds.

At this particular time, DDOT does not recommend this change for two primary reasons.

DDOT is concerned that changing the walk time at this intersection may negatively impact pedestrian safety at this intersection further, in addition to negatively affecting traffic flow. We would like to share these two impacts with you.

Signal and pedestrian timing at this intersection is set as a standardized actuated signal, which is in agreement with the Manual of Uniform Traffic Control Devices (MUTCD). Further this standard is consistent with the Americans with Disabilities Act. The MUTCD is the national standard for traffic signals and other infrastructure matters. In following these standards, the signal is designed to display visible countdown time only during the “do not walk” flashing time. Therefore the viewable walk time on this signal is only 20 seconds. The total time for pedestrians to cross however is 30 seconds. The breakdown for the signal’s walk time is as follows:

5 seconds of walk time as background time (not seen)
3 seconds of yellow as background time (not seen)
2 seconds of red signal as background time (not seen)
20 seconds of visible walk time (viewable)

Although ten seconds are unseen, 20 seconds are still present for pedestrians to cross. Thirty full seconds are documented as walk time in this signal.

If the signal is changed, even in a small increment, the total cycle of signal length of the entire intersection will be altered and the allowable green time for traffic will be reduced. This could result in additional traffic delays further along New York Avenue. An overflow of traffic may adversely affect pedestrian safety as gridlocked traffic could occur through the intersections and crosswalks.

For the remainder of DDOT’s responses to MVSNA recommendations please visit Cary Silverman’s MVSNA posting.

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    KK says

    Its all along New York Ave really; you can hardly get across at

    NY Ave & Tunnel.
    NY Ave & NJ Ave/3rd street
    NY Ave & 1st street NW
    NY Ave & North Capitol
    NY Ave & 1st street NE

    Even though most of they all have traffic lights it is still a danger to try and cross them especially at North Capitol & 1st street NW traffic almost never stops for pedestrians even if you have the right of way; its like theres a mentality of your gonna wait for us to go even though you were here first with the car drivers and you have to basically act like frogger to get across the street

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    mattyschell says

    If they start off with big, scienceriffic words like “standardized actuated signal” we clearly have no choice but to trust the irrefutable science that comes after.

    “If the signal is changed, even in a small increment, the total cycle of signal length of the entire intersection will be altered and the allowable green time for traffic will be reduced.”


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    Anonymous says

    Anybody know what the heck was causing that LOUD rumble at around 9 p.m. tonight? It was constant, sounded like a freight train for many minutes solid, and then, at about 9:05, it just… stopped. (I live in City Vista.)

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    Anonymous says

    Did they address the issue of attempting to make a right turn off of L onto 5th St and trying to make it fully across NY Ave before the light turns?